Director of strategy Rafizi Ramli talked to Malaysiakini in an interview last week.
Malaysiakini: How did PKR get the information on NFC?
Rafizi said:
He had to admit that they started off not knowing anything as alll they had were public documents available through public searches and their two objections initially was the fact, firstly, it was given to a company owned by a minister’s family, with no background in the industry. Secondly, they did not meet the target despite having two or three years.
Generally, more and more information just came through email, or sometimes people just drop a piece of paper.
If one were to search on the Internet, there are a lot of rumours on NFC, where they had their properties, etc. Then they had to do the other 50 percent corroborative work and really had to go track down where the properties were and confirm it is their property.
In the case of Singapore it was quite easy as one could do a search with the authorities. It’s just that.
But he did have a PDF copy of the cash payouts which is from a whistleblower, whom he still didn’t know to this day.
Malaysiakini: How do you know it is genuine?
Rafizi said:
That’s why as he said 50 percent of the work was on their part. From the cashbook, one could see some money coming in and going out and that could be corraborated. In the case of the loan, for example, that could be corraborated with their financial statements filed with ROC.
Likewise, from those cash payments, they saw four payments to Banda Raya Developments Berhad. It was a mistake (for them) as they actually put down One Menerung there. They just went there and started asking around, and a lot of people would just say, “Yeah, Shahrizat has one condo here.” If you were to ask people in Umno and they would say it is an open secret.
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